The first thing I want to say is
that the album is really fucking cool. How has the response been?
fantastic. We've done Europe now and the US is officially done,
and it's been great. I couldn't be happier actually. It's been
awhile since our last album and people are ready for a new one
and now is the time.
How have the sales been as compared
because it's been better promoted. Our last label didn't promote
it as hard. It's like anything, if it's promoted well, people
are going to know about it. It's been really cool, there is a
really good relationship.
So, for the cover of Painkiller,
are you one of the people that wanted to get into JUDAS PRIEST
and couldn't, so you decided to make Judas Priest songs like some
other people out there?
it was a chance for me to sing different. I prefer singing melodic.
I don't like singing death vocals. The PRIEST song was a chance
for me to have fun, we all love the record. Painkiller is God.
it's a chance to have fun with it. We get to sing. We didn't know
we were going to release it, we didn't know it was going to come
out, really. We decided to put it on the album.
The logo mutates from record to
record. How many more records until that 'T' is going to look
like a capital 'T'?
It will never
be a capital. I think we've found a happy medium right now.
You were here in Atlanta last I
think it was 1995, and you had INTOXICATION opening up for you.
How did that come about? I've never heard of them before or since.
their way out to the show, unfortunately. It will never happen
You mentioned Nuclear Blast doing
the better promotion. This is the first Nuclear Blast record I've
seen thats in all of the stores that deal with any kind
of metal. it's actually in the stores!
Blast is now officially very strong in America. Before it was
just a big European thing, and now they have an American office,
they have kick-ass people working for them. They have a lot of
great signings and the lineup is growing. I think Nuclear Blast
is basically taking over the metal scene in the US, whats
left of it, and they are rebuilding it. Thats what we're
here for, that is what this whole tour is about. To build it back
In the past you've had the 'All-star
Lineups', with this guy from that band, etc. Now it's new guys,
the talent is still there but there isn't any added name value.
How has the fan reaction been to that?
be better. The response could not be better to everyone. It feels
very comfortable. There is no competition between the last lineups
and this one. We do what we do.
A song like Voice of the Soul off
the new album sounds very good, it's easy sounding, not really
harsh. How do you come up with stuff like that next to things
like Scavenger of Human Sorrow?
it's got to
be more. There is so much more in me as a guitar player than just
heavy double picking riffs, which I think is apparent on a lot
of the new record. I use a lot of different chords, a lot of melodies.
Voice of the Soul is actually something I wrote during Symbolic,
but it just never made it onto the record. For me it's a chance
to not scream, and do just guitars and have fun. I'm a guitar
player first, and a screamer second.
The new material is a progression
from the older stuff, it sounds much better, but from some of
the press you've been doing you make it sound like you're completely
distancing yourself from the stuff in the past.
I'm not trying
to distance myself from what I've done. I just think people need
to realize that this band has grown, outgrown categories that
we've been thrown into. I'm proud of everything I've done. Certain
things I wish I wouldn't have done, but they're done, and I can
live with it. Everyone is like that. Talk to any band, they'll
be like 'On that album, I wish I would have done that differently.'
I'm proud of where I came from, I'm building on top of that. All
my roots are in the early 80s. Thats what DEATH is, a band
derived from KISS, IRON MAIDEN, SLAYER, DOKKEN, MERCYFUL FATE,
all those bands were very inspirational to me.
I came on board during the Individual
Thought Patterns time period, and I only went back and got as
far as Human, so I was wondering why everyone in the press seems
to call you Evil Chuck?
from high school, when I formed Mantas. It was the embryo of DEATH,
so to speak. I was the only person in high school into SLAYER,
METALLICA, RAVEN, EXCITER, all those bands, so they called me
Evil. I had SLAYER on my notebook, VENOM, and back then, people
thought METALLICA was garbage. Seriously, back in '83, I was trying
to convert people, playing EXCITER's Heavy Metal Maniac, MERCYFUL
FATE, SAVATAGE and everything.
When did you start MANTAS, and
how old were you?
1983, I was
And when did that turn into DEATH?
When I was
about 17 it turned into Death.
I've seen some discussion about
the origin of the brutal voice in Metal. Your name always comes
up, and some people think it was POSSESSED that came first...
I take no
fucking credit at all! I can't. I hate it when people do that.
People say 'Oh, the originators.' I'm not the originator of shit!
I'm just carrying the flag of metal as I know it forward. POSSESSED
was before DEATH, album-wise, I love POSSESSED. SLAYER was before
us, VENOM was before everything.
But I think the way they were doing
is different than doing the over the top roaring though.
different variations, but they were way before me. I never like
to take any sort of credit for that at all.
it's always a big thing in interviews
you're always like 'don't believe rumors, don't believe this and
that.' Where does all of that come from?
people talking so much shit! Always shit about this band, or that
band. I don't believe anything I ever hear unless I absolutely
narrow it down to the source. There's a lot of bored people out
there. Thats why we have the evilnet, the internet.
That whole thing can just fuck off. I pray for the demise of the
internet. I fucking hate it.
I brought it up this time, but
do you ever worry that by bringing it up all the time in interviews
that you might be coming off as defensive?
not. I laugh at that, it's hilarious!
Yeah, because I've always found
you cool, because I remember last time you were here you came
out before the show, talking to everyone in line.
I'm the most
non-defensive person. I just want justice, I want to be treated
fairly like any other human being does. I'm a person. I don't
care if I'm in a band, I don't deserve any special treatment.
If someone starts talking shit.
Oscar (of HAMMERFALL): Can I just
If you say
Oscar: Before we went on this tour,
we heard a lot of weird things about this guy.
love you too!
Oscar: Well we heard this stuff,
and none of it was true. He's the coolest guy ever.
Oscar: Everyone knows it!
exactly it! It's a perfect example why people think I'm defensive.
Because I know people talk shit!
Joacim (of HAMMERFALL): People
should make up their own minds! Not believe rumors all the time,
because they are bullshit!
a lot about people I've met and grew up worshipping. Like Gene
Simmons, I always heard Gene Simmons is this and that, and he's
the greatest guy I've ever met, and it was one of the greatest
experiences of my entire life. He's super fucking cool. Bruce
Dickinson, I've heard people say weird things about him, and he's
the nicest guy ever! That shows you, I'm a fan too, I know what
it's like to hear shit on people!
Thats one of the things I
was worried about when I started doing the fanzine, talking to
people whose work I liked, what if they were assholes, would that
ruin me enjoying their work?
Most of the
time, I can guarantee to you that people are going to be really
cool that you talk to. Thats usually the case.
OK, last subject, a few questions
about CONTROL DENIED. I know you want a different vocal style,
but what about the music?
the only thing, vocals are different. Musically, it is completely
parallel with what DEATH is doing now. What you hear on the new
DEATH album is what you'll hear on CONTROL DENIED.
I think it's weird having just different
vocal styles but the same music between two different bands.
not, because I think that the music has outgrown the boundaries
that DEATH are facing. Vocals make or break a band. Vocals can
enhance, or they can take away from. For me, the next logical
step is a melodic singer in this music, and thats it, thats
the next step. A step forward.
In Metal Maniacs for awhile there
seemed to be a micro soap opera whether Warrel Dane from NEVERMORE
was going to sing or not. Whats the story behind that?
happened one time, but things just didn't work out schedule-wise
and we have a great singer, Tim Aymar who is a singer from America,
who has done a lot in the past. Not album wise, but he has been
around for awhile, a very educated singer.
When CONTROL DENIED gets released,
if it takes off and becomes as popular as DEATH, will you retire
In a heartbeat.
Just like that! I hate screaming. I just don't like it any more.
it's very hard. I just got over being sick a week ago and I haven't
been the same since. it's difficult. I started playing guitar.
I never intended on singing this way. I never did!
I guess since you're the singer
I can sympathize, but as a fan I don't agree. But thank you very
much for your time, and the great show, and I guess I'll see you